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GTR brake linings
« on: January 12, 2019, 12:51:03 PM »
I'm going to replace the original brake shoes on my GTR. They only have about 3K on them, going by the odometer when I purchased the bike. Being that the linings are 50+ years old, and contain asbestos, replacement seems to be the way to go. To the point: I've read in an old post that Honda  175 shoes, or another Honda model (or other manufacturer?) are the same? If this is so, does anyone have a current part #? I've rather go this route, if possible, as to get them re-lined by one vendor would be about $115.00 per pair, plus shipping. Any and all suggestions appreciated!

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 02:28:38 PM »
I do not understand you guys, all you have to do is contact Richard and order some new ones.  what am i missing?  Jeff bar

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 08:15:39 PM »
I've had good luck with NOS shoes.  The used ones in bikes are likely very hard from heat while in use, but NOS ones work fine.  Richard may still have some and sometimes they show up on ebay.  There is a difference in 175 and 350 shoes even though they are the same size. The 350 shoes hold up better when aggressively ridden; however, for normal cruising, I don't think it would matter.
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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 12:26:02 AM »
So the 175 and 350 use the same brakes, except for the shoes? If so, this an example of BS cutting costs.


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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 03:43:35 AM »
Same as Jeff bar.
Don't understand the problem.

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 01:07:03 PM »
            Many original reviewera of the GTR expressed surpise that BS fitted the same front brake as used on the 175, when considering the higher performance of the 350.  I have read that BS used a better lining material on the 350 to improve  brake performance, explaining why the identical brake shoes have different part numbers for each model. So it was more a safety issue than cost cutting.
            Properly set up this is a very effective brake, the front brake on my GTO is very good giving instant bite and easily able to stop the bike with just a couple of fingers on the lever (original shoes with 6000 miles on the clock)    The rear brake is not so good, will have to give it a dose of looking at before the spring.
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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 05:33:37 PM »
Jeff B: As stated in my original post,, I'm not too keen on the idea of using NOS linings, as they are most likely asbestos, and in addition, 50+ year-old linings would, IMHO, be suspect due to their shear age.  Also, modern linings that contain Kevlar, are superior. Having said that, OldWSwartout seems happy with his NOS shoes.

Like to get more feedback on how many on this site have used NOS shoes from Richard.


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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 07:27:35 AM »
For what it is worth.

I use NOS brake shoes on all my Bridgestone restoration projects.
I have never had a problem or concern.

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 09:53:42 AM »
Thanks, Randy, for the reply.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 11:05:52 AM »
I do not understand you guys, all you have to do is contact Richard and order some new ones.  what am i missing?  Jeff bar

Not everyone is looking for 50+ year old parts as replacements.

Dan
1966 175 DT and 1968 350 GTR

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 11:13:17 AM »
OK, then spend 115$.  popcorn

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 12:01:20 PM »
Here in the UK, we have a company called Villiers Services, who will provide a range of modern brake shoe linings for any size of shoe. I've used them for the front brake of my BSA A7SS and it made a big difference...would recommend them. They charge about 22 GBP per pair...not ideal for you guys in the States but it is an option.

https://villiersservices.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66


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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 12:13:04 PM »
$$$$ money is no object for some $$$$
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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 01:22:05 PM »
With Australia's crackdown on asbestos being imported in vintage vehicles & parts, those guys won’t be able to buy and bring in any of the nos brake shoes.

Gotta have alternatives......

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 11:02:27 PM »
Just put your feet down and drag them. It worked for Fred Flintstone. No harm to the environment.

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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 07:10:48 PM »
I have used stock ones for years, road my 350 about 3000 miles since the fix up.   but I am just riding at street speed, nothing fancy  :P Jeff bar

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2019, 06:07:19 AM »
Rear brake is weak so I am adapting a double cam front brake to the back on my modified 350 rider. For liners in the U.S.A. check this guy out: http://www.vintagebrake.com/. He appears easy to work with and knows his stuff. He also builds up wheels.

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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2019, 09:25:20 AM »
Bob. Please post some photos of your brake system, a improved rear brake would be a welcomed addition to a GTR.  banana

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2019, 09:09:37 PM »
I would like to see a double cam rear brake also. I don't think I have ever seen one

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Re: GTR brake linings
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2019, 06:16:26 AM »
I am in the process of putting together a double cam rear brake. At this point it looks like it will work with a few modifications. My ulitmate objective is to be able to lock up the rear wheel. Pictures may be difficult since it seems I can no longer post them on this site, but I will see what I can do.

Good luck with your builds and have fun!

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