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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2016, 10:19:59 AM »
Should have known.......I'm a slow learner. Thanks Graham!
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BS90 D premix fuel - Known serial numbers
« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2016, 05:46:15 AM »
Here is the full list I have of known serials, taken from bikes I've actually seen and those I've seen for sale on the web.


BS90 Deluxe/Trail/Mountain    Production started in early 1964

(Approximately 67,000 petroil BS90D/T/M models built)

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1964   Jan   12 A   
   Feb   12 B   
   Mar   12 C   
   Apr   12 D   001467; 001703
   May   12 E   
   Jun   12 F   
   Jul   12 G   
   Aug   12 H   017795; 022454
   Sep   12 I   025444
   Oct   12 J   028893; 030755
   Nov   12 K   
   Dec   12 L   


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1965   Jan   12 M   036326
   Feb   12 N   036928; 037834
   Mar   12 O   037850; 039026
   Apr   12 P   039261; 040964
   May   12 Q   040982; 042257
   Jun   12 R   043600; 045502
   July   12 S   048992; 050532
   Aug   12 T   051145; 052885
   Sep   12 U   052907
   Oct   12 V   054760
   Nov   12 W   
   Dec   12 Z   056391


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1966   Jan   12 A   
   Feb   12 B   057034; 057127
   Mar   12 C   
   Apr   12 D   
   May   12 E   
   Jun   12 F   
   Jul   12 G   
   Aug   12 H   060061; 060263
   Sep   12 I   
   Oct   12 J   
   Nov   12 K   
   Dec   12 L   

 

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1967   Jan   12 M   
   Feb   12 N   
   Mar   12 O   
   Apr   12 P   
   May   12 Q   
   Jun   12 R   064913; 065349
   Jul   12 S   
   Aug   12 T   
   Sep   12 U   
   Oct   12 V   
   Nov   12 W   
   Dec   12 Z   
 
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BS90 Sport premix fuel - Known Serial numbers
« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2016, 05:52:59 AM »
Here is the full list I have of known serials, taken from bikes I've actually seen and those I've seen for sale on the web.


BS90 Sport    Production started in early 1965

(Approximately 12,000 petroil BS90 Sports built)

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1965   Jan   14 M   
   Feb   14 N   
   Mar   14O   
   Apr   14P   
   May   14 Q   
   Jun   14 R   
   Jul   14 S   002364
   Aug   14 T   
   Sep   14 U   
   Oct   14 V   
   Nov   14 W   
   Dec   14 Z   


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1966   Jan   14 A   
   Feb   14 B   
   Mar   14 C   007322
   Apr   14 D   
   May   14 E   
   Jun   14 F   008394
   Jul   14 G   011238
   Aug   14 H   
   Sep   14 I   
   Oct   14 J   
   Nov   14 K   
   Dec   14 L   

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« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2016, 05:55:24 AM »
Here is the full list I have of known serials, taken from bikes I've actually seen and those I've seen for sale on the web.


BS90 Deluxe/Trail/Mountain (Jet-Lube)   Production started in late 1965

(Approximately 31,000 Jet-Lube BS90D/T/M models built)

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1966   Jan   17 A   
   Feb   17 B   003276; 004002
   Mar   17 C   
   Apr   17 D   
   May   17 E   007223; 007378
   June   17 F   009030
   July   17 G   011756
   Aug   17 H   013784; 013832
   Sept   17 I   
   Oct   17 J   
   Nov   17 K   
   Dec   17 L   


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1967   Jan   17 M   
   Feb   17 N   
   Mar   17 O   
   Apr   17 P   
   May   17 Q   
   June   17 R   020384
   July   17 S   
   Aug   17 T   
   Sept   17 U   
   Oct   17 V   21251; 21282   
   Nov   17 W   21563   
   Dec   17 Z   


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1968   Jan   17 A   
   Feb   17 B   021782; 021787
   Mar   17 C   
   Apr   17 D   
   May   17 E   
   June   17 F   
   July   17 G   
   Aug   17 H   
   Sept   17 I   
   Oct   17 J   
   Nov   17 K   
   Dec   17 L   030719

 

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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2016, 09:24:02 PM »
Good Day, Graham!
  I have a new entry for you in The 350GTR VIN listings. Just purchased a 350GTR while on Holiday in Iowa. The VIN reads 21U03983, superceding the existing end number for Sept. 1967 production, currently listed as 03940. This particular bike is bearing a frame number of NA1-04007. Remarkably close. I have not gotten to the engine number yet. The bike is currently titled as a 1969, which I will get changed to reflect the proper 1968 model year.

Hope this finds you well,

Kerry Pagenkopf
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2016, 09:43:10 AM »
Cheers for that, Kerry - I've just updated the listing to include your GTR.

Graham

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BS100 Trail/GP/TMX - Known serial numbers
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2016, 06:06:46 AM »
Here is the full list I have of known serials, taken from bikes I've actually seen and those I've seen for sale on the web.



BS100 Trail/GP/TMX   Manufacture started in early 1968

(Approximately 14,000 tubular frame BS100s built)

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1968   Jan   22 A   
   Feb   22 B   
   Mar   22 C   
   Apr   22 D   000465
   May   22 E   001280
   Jun   22 F   
   Jul   22 G   
   Aug   22 H   
   Sep   22 I   
   Oct   22 J   
   Nov   22 K   
   Dec   22 L   

Year   Month   Code   Serial
1969   Jan   22 M   
   Feb   22 N   
   Mar   22 O   
   Apr   22 P   004420: 005318
   May   22 Q   
   Jun   22 R   
   Jul   22 S   
   Aug   22 T   
   Sept   22 U   
   Oct   22 V   
   Nov   22 W   
   Dec   22 Z   006678: 007265


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1970   Jan   22 A   
   Feb   22 B   
   Mar   22 C   008190
   Apr   22 D   
   May   22 E   009612
   Jun   22 F   
   Jul   22 G   
   Aug   22 H   
   Sep   22 I   
   Oct   22 J   
   Nov   22 K   
   Dec   22 L   
         


Year   Month   Code   Serial
1971   Jan   22 M   011714: 012672
   Feb   22 N   
   Mar   22 O   
   Apr   22 P   013111; 013657
   May   22 Q   
   Jun   22 R   
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #67 on: June 17, 2016, 05:08:47 PM »
Hi, I joined a few weeks ago when I first got my 350 GTR. Frame no is NA1-00284 but i've now found the plate at the back of the frame and its clearly 21000271 which doesn't seem to fit in. Engine no is 240. Am I reading it correctly?
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2016, 05:56:39 AM »
Hi, Jon,

Yes, that seems a bit weird. The number set (...240, ...284 and ...270) seem consistent are close enough to be the original frame and engine.

I agree, though, that the "210" prefix on the plate doesn't tally. "21R" sounds much more likely and I wonder if you've misread the lettering on the plate. Is it damaged and scratched, as that can make the stamping hard to read?

Graham



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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2016, 05:12:55 PM »
Hi Graham,
Hopefully picture of ID plate attached.
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2016, 05:16:54 PM »
Ah, looking at the blown up picture on here it looks like 21Q - May 67?
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2016, 09:45:53 PM »
Still a glitch here somewhere. If the 21R00244 on the list is valid, your bike would have been produced a month before, but 27 units later in the production sequence. Doesn't add up, and your vin tag certainly appears to authenticate.......Graham????? any ideas.
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2016, 10:28:47 PM »
We need Bikenstein to tell us what his vin is. He's said in the past that it's number 108, but I can't find the complete number. I'm betting now that it's 21Qxxxxxx.

Also, maybe Graham didn't get the complete vin for #244 and (sorry) assumed it was an "R" date?
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2016, 03:39:44 AM »
Graham; Hope this finds you well;
  I have a some new serial numbers to report, and one is rather exciting, at least for me. Purchased a couple of 100's for parts. One of them is a 100 trail-OI with the VIN plate of 22C-000055. Frame number is 000058. This would validate March production. The engine is a 20C number which bothered me initially until I read other comments you had posted about those being correct. Please add it to the list. The other bike is a '71 TMX, with VIN # 22N013134. As we have no starting number for that months production currently, would you kindly add it to the list also. The 3rd bike in the lot was a '66 DT175. It's VIN is 16K19968, which is later than the current number shown as last produced for the Nov. '66 production. Would you also add that in. Thanks so much for all you do in helping keep these archives alive. Your work is invaluable to us all.

Kerry
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Re: Serial number ID guide by Graham Weeks
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2016, 06:21:43 AM »
Kerry,
Unfortunately Graham has passed away.  Here's a link to his memorial.  http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/index.php?topic=4341.msg25403#msg25403
Rest in peace!  Steve

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Re: Graham Weeks passing
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2016, 11:13:13 AM »
Steve;
  Thank you kindly for your response. I feel terrible now, not having kept up on things here. I have posted a condolence to his passing, which will certainly leave a huge void in many lives.

Kerry
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