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Title: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on April 28, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
In my other thread, I listed this as one of the things I was having trouble finding. The real ones rarely show up on eBay and it doesn't seem like anyone is reproducing these.

After thinking about it a bit, I decided to give TC with PitReplica a shout and see if he would be interested in providing these. He seems interested but I think if more people inquired, it might get done. One thing I forgot to point out and maybe someone here could, is that like his seat covers, he could do these for all the other manufacturers as well, not just Bridgestones.

I've offered to send him my beat up, ragged example, but he may require one in a little better condition. I'll let you all know how this progresses.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on April 28, 2014, 10:55:38 AM
Just got this reply.....

"Hi,
Ok great. I would like to give this a try.
Since you mentioned that this tool bags come in different size and snaps, what year in exact yours came from?
Best Regards, TC"

Before I respond, I'd like to check my facts. Were the tools bags the same for both the GTR & GTO throughout the production years 1967 - 1971?

There ARE 2 different part numbers for these in the 350 parts manual but are the bags the same with a different set of tools included or were there 2 totally different bags?
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: steve on April 28, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
I think that's a great idea Moonpup...nice one!
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: James14p on April 28, 2014, 04:07:16 PM
The ones I have say HOMER on top, then Bridgestone under it. I know they are original because they came from my dad's shop. I don't know which bikes they were on though.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: James14p on April 28, 2014, 04:14:25 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/25zicu9.jpg)
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on April 28, 2014, 04:34:52 PM
Thanks James. That looks a lot like the bags for the smaller bikes such as the 50 & 60's, although I'm not sure if they had 'Homer" on them.

I'm trying to get him started with the tool bags for the 350's first and if they're successful, I'm sure he'll probably branch out to the other sizes.

I need the 350 folks to check their tool bags and let us know which bike it came with and what year. I'm hoping the bags were all the same size for both bikes through the entire 350 production period and it was just the tools included in them that were different.

Here's some more pic's (with measurements) of my GTO bag for the GTR members to compare to....
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on April 29, 2014, 12:26:25 PM
Earlier I said that there were 2 part numbers for the 350 tools bags, and there are, but I should've paid closer attention! I have a habit of anytime I see a number end in 9010, I immediately assume it's for the GTO. That's not the case here. It's for a second batch of "special" tools as you'll see in the pic I've attached. (btw: the red stars are for a member that's helping me acquire some of the ones I'm missing.)

So I guess I'll let TC @ PitReplica know that the GTR & GTO shared the same bag throughout the years.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: Mopar5426 on April 29, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
  Anyone Know What Will Soften The Plastic Bags   They Make Leather Sofener How About Plastic Sofener GENE
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: James14p on April 30, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
Now I am confused as to what I actually have..... (http://i60.tinypic.com/hvxft2.jpg)
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: scrambler on April 30, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Now I am confused as to what I actually have.....

You have the specialty tool set for the BS Homer step through scooter. Not the tool kit that would have came with the bike but the tool kit a dealer might have to service the bike.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: James14p on May 01, 2014, 08:37:57 AM
Now I am confused as to what I actually have.....

You have the specialty tool set for the BS Homer step through scooter. Not the tool kit that would have came with the bike but the tool kit a dealer might have to service the bike.
Makes sense....Thank you!................Jim
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: Jeff Bar on May 01, 2014, 09:06:19 AM
Yes. if bag has HOMER on it then it is for a bs homer hms  not for any other bs jeff bar
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on May 01, 2014, 09:28:38 AM
Here's another update from my correspondence with TC @ PitReplica.

In my last email to TC, I mentioned the importance of having the Bridgestone name & logo embossed on the cover of the tool bag and if he was unable to do this, then there would probably be little interest in the product. I got this reply back this morning......

" Hi Mike,
My concern is if I can find the same material used for this bag. The heat embossed logo is no issue. No worries, I will see how it goes. Let’s try out. Nothing loss. I will return your bag in the same condition and a piece of my work for your review. Good?
Please send it to my shipping address below for production:"

So, with the ball back in my court, I'll get a bag sent off and I guess we'll see how this turns out.  8)


Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on May 03, 2014, 11:57:03 AM
Here's a couple questions I hope you guys can help out with.....

First, thanks to Gene, I got another tool bag that's a better example to send to PitReplica but there is a slight difference that I wanted to run by everyone to see if there is a preference that you would like to see on the finished product. Now is the time to jump in and let your thoughts be known.

The Bridgestone lettering & logo are different between the 2 bags in that the embossing is opposite on them.

On the bag from my 1970 GTO, the lettering/logo is pressed down on the outside of the flap, so that the underside feels raised. On Gene's bag, it appears to be pressed from the underside, making the letters/logo feel raised on the outside.

The second question has to do with one of the screwdriver bits included in the 350 kit. It's the one on the far right in the illustration I provided earlier. Am I correct in seeing a smaller Phillips head on one end and a reg/flat head on the other end?

Here are the pic's of the embossing. The top photo will be from the GTO and the bottom from Gene.

Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on May 03, 2014, 12:46:36 PM
I vote for the upper bag in your post.
...bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on May 05, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Update: Just sent both tool bags off to TC this morning with instructions concerning embossing, color and snaps. Will keep y'all updated with the progress, but for now it's time to sit back and wait.  ;D

Thank you Gene for helping me out with the other bag, it'll be a big help in matching the color.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on May 06, 2014, 09:14:23 AM
Ok, while I'm sitting back waiting on TC's handywork, I thought I'd move on and see if I could get another detail worked out.

Some of the "new" tools (it appears mainly the wrenches/spanners) had these "Passed" inspection stickers one them. I'd like to see if I could take one down to the local print shop and get it reproduced. My only problem is I don't have any, so if someone has one in good shape that they could send me, I'd really appreciate it. The sticker will be returned and if I'm successful, I'll also include some of the repop's for your time & trouble.

If this has already been done, please let me know where I could get some.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 03, 2014, 08:46:31 AM
Two months later and.... TA-DAAAA!  TC sent me these pics this morning and needless to say, I am more than thrilled with the results. The grain/texture of the vinyl may not be a perfect match, but I can live with that and the rest looks perfect!

Not sure when they will show up on eBay or what the cost will be but at least we now have this option.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on July 03, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
Way to go Moonpup! Thanks for driving this project. Now I don't have to invent a way to rebond the edges on the "good" one I have. (wasn't sure I would come up with something that would work anyway...;-)
...bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 03, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
Thanks Bert (and you too Steve).... at least these will be better than having ripped/brittle/discolored or no bag at all!

I'm still trying to nail down some more information for TC to both help & thank him for his effort with this. I got curious about the other bags for the smaller bikes and checked the parts manuals for the 200/175/100/90/60 & 50's. They all have pictures of bags with 2 snaps that look similar to the 350 bag but of course without the actual dimensions, I have no idea if they are a match. I'd like to let TC know which other Bridgestones used this 2 snap bag so that he can include that info in his sales description and increase his chances of making more sales.

So, to all the members that still have their toolbags for the bike listed above, would/could you please report back with the dimensions. I would really appreciate it.

Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: mqtsteve on July 03, 2014, 06:38:44 PM
Good job moonpup!  Now where can I get the tools?  Just kidding!  I see they come up every now and then on eBay.  They don't go cheap.  Thanks, mqtsteve
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: steve on July 06, 2014, 04:47:44 PM
Thanks for all your efforts Moonpup in getting this organised...much appreciated! I have two toolbags but both are ripped, so I'll definitely be buying a couple. I'll keep a look out on ebay and on here as to when they are going on sale.

Thanks, Steve
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: MrHonda on July 06, 2014, 07:06:36 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Bridgestone-motorcycle-tool-kit-/251580245788 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Bridgestone-motorcycle-tool-kit-/251580245788)

Apparently the kit is missing the timing bolt and nut, but the bag is nice and all the other tools are marked appropriately... I think!  I am a Honda guy, of course...

Also have listed a BS dealer catalog

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1969-Bridgestone-Motorcycle-Dealer-Program-extra-sales-pages-/261520669803 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1969-Bridgestone-Motorcycle-Dealer-Program-extra-sales-pages-/261520669803)

Sell or trade for rare vintage Honda parts! 

Bill Silver
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 10, 2014, 02:55:11 PM
Speaking of tools, there a NOS 13 piece speciality tool kit & bag just listed on eBay. Don't see these too often!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgestone-NEW-TOOL-KIT-VERY-RARE-13-PIECES-IN-A-POUCH-/281382496926?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4183b42a9e&vxp=mtr#ht_443wt_1362 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgestone-NEW-TOOL-KIT-VERY-RARE-13-PIECES-IN-A-POUCH-/281382496926?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4183b42a9e&vxp=mtr#ht_443wt_1362)
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on July 10, 2014, 03:04:59 PM
I'm on the road, so don't have access to my Parts List. Are these for a 175/200? Guessing from the -8000 Part Number extention.
Thanks
....bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: OldSwartout on July 10, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Bridgestone-motorcycle-tool-kit-/251580245788 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Bridgestone-motorcycle-tool-kit-/251580245788)

Apparently the kit is missing the timing bolt and nut, but the bag is nice and all the other tools are marked appropriately... I think!  I am a Honda guy, of course...

Bill Silver

That kit is also missing the pliers.  However, it is still a nice buy.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: OldSwartout on July 10, 2014, 05:37:12 PM
I'm on the road, so don't have access to my Parts List. Are these for a 175/200? Guessing from the -8000 Part Number extention.
Thanks
....bert
It looks like it is for the smaller bikes; there's a flywheel puller and other pieces for the small bikes. There is no clutch holder nor piston pin driver for the 175.  I suspect it is for 90/100 and smaller, or is missing some items.

BTW, bsaddict is Brian McDonough, a long-time Bridgestone supporter. He's a member on this site, but has never posted.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: ziggy stardust on July 11, 2014, 07:05:24 AM
I visited Brian recently, he has few GTR parts but many other bits n pieces for the smaller machines.

He showed me a box half full of tool kits in original Bridgestone tool bags, again for the smaller machines.

Z
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on July 11, 2014, 09:00:24 AM
Thanks Karl. Guess my search for a 350 tool kit continues (special tools). I suspect I am in competition with several others.
 ;D
...bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 11, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
Quote
That kit is also missing the pliers.  However, it is still a nice buy.

Karl, According to the diagram in the parts manual, the 21-26mm box end wrench is out of place also and should be a 19-21mm open end.

Also there are only 2 screwdriver bits shown in the manual as well.  The one on the far right of the pic appears to show a bit with a phillips head on one end and a flat head on the other. I picked up some missing tools recently from Gene and asked him about that one and he said he had none and didn't recall ever seeing one.

Does anyone know if that thing exists?  ???

EDIT: further research shows that this kit on eBay is for the 175 & 200 bikes, which explains why it isn't matching up with the 350 pic's. DOH! ;D  Would still like info on the double ended bit though.....
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: ziggy stardust on July 11, 2014, 02:46:17 PM
This is what my GTR tool kit looks like.

(http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/gallery/1350_11_07_14_11_44_23.jpeg)

Z
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: OldSwartout on July 11, 2014, 04:45:07 PM
My 350 tool kit consists of several tools scavenged from the original (bag disintegrated) + some others I found, stuffed in a Yamaha bag.  ;D
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: bsaddict on July 15, 2014, 06:01:55 AM
Please look on ebay for a "special set " of tools for sale by bsaddict.Brian in UK
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 15, 2014, 08:26:47 AM
Hi Brian, I put up a link to your auction about 9-10 posts (depending on where you start counting  ;D ) futher up on this page.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: bsaddict on July 15, 2014, 10:19:06 AM
Look on ebay Item 281382406926 for a tool kit
Brian
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 18, 2014, 05:00:57 PM
My "new" tool bag along with the samples I sent TC finally arrived back home to Texas today, so I thought I'd give y'all a final review now that it's in my hands.

I'll start first with the workmanship and you'll find no complaints here. The overall size, the quality of the seams and the snaps are all spot on.  ;D

However, the purist/perfectionist in me demands that I point out the differences from the original. The color is not an exact match to the samples I sent. Of course I have no idea how true the colors are on these 40 year old bags, so it's close enough for me.

As mentioned before, the texture of the vinyl isn't even close, but I really wasn't expecting him to be able to find an exact match.... just hoping.

And for my last bit of pickyness, the logo is about a 1/4" higher up the flap.  ::)

In conclusion..... I'll probably get another one from TC as a backup!  ;D
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: mqtsteve on July 18, 2014, 05:36:40 PM
Good job moonpup!  It looks great.  The logo position is close.  I would bet the original bags logo vary from the factory.  Do you know how much they will cost?  Thanks, Steve
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on July 18, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
Really does look great Moonpup. Thinking about this somemore, there was probably a process step in the production of the original material in which an embossing drum is rolled over the bulk material as it was fed from roll to roll. May have even been some heating of the drum involved. Really hard to reproduce as the drum tool would cost big bucks. :o
...bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 19, 2014, 08:59:00 AM
....snip.... Do you know how much they will cost?  Thanks, Steve

Steve, I sent TC an email yesterday after receiving the tool bag thanking him for taking on this project and inquiring as to when he’d start listing them on eBay and if he had any ideas on the price. This morning I received this reply.....

“Thanks for giving me this opportunity to handle this project. I already have this bag ready for sale and I can send invoice via paypal. It will be a while before they are available on ebay. Price of this bag is $45. Airmail provided free.”

I was hoping the price would end up a little lower, but what do I know.  I guess the market will decide if the price is right or not. I’m just happy they’re available.

 
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: mqtsteve on July 19, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Thanks moonpup!  Kind of expensive!  You can get them with tools for around the same price.  That's almost as much as the seat covers (for 90's).  Thanks for getting it done.  I bet he will adjust the price at some time.  Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on July 19, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Steve,  he currently has these for sale at the same price. Looks like there'd be more involved in making these than our little vinyl bag, but like I said.... what do I know!  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-XR200R-XR200-R-1981-1982-81-82-TOOL-BAG-POUCH-HSVSS-/181284412270?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a35649b6e#ht_4144wt_1125 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-XR200R-XR200-R-1981-1982-81-82-TOOL-BAG-POUCH-HSVSS-/181284412270?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a35649b6e#ht_4144wt_1125)
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on August 09, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
While searching eBay for a double ended screwdriver bit similar to the one I believe may have been part of the 350 tool kit (but that's another story  ;D ), I ran across a gentleman that mentioned he had a few nos BS tools.

We weren't able to make a deal on the tools, but out of the kindness of his heart, he sent me one of the inspection decals no charge! So finally I have one and can begin trying to get some replicas made. Will let ya'll know how that works out later........
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on August 09, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
Well... lookee here, seems to be 2 different sticker/decals were used on the tools.

The one I got today is round, gold tinted and looks like it's a paper based sticker while the other is oval, silver tinted and appears to be a foil material.

I may wait now and try to get one of the oval stickers before I proceed.  Any preferences?  ;D
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: slawsonb on August 09, 2014, 07:20:02 PM
Until now I had only seen the oval ones. I suggest you wait til you see some tools with the round label (unless you already have). The round one may be a generic inspection label.
...bert
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on August 09, 2014, 07:31:46 PM
Here's a set that sold recently on eBay. The round gold decals appear more on the kits with the light blue tool bags while the oval silver ones seem to be with the darker blue kits. Must be an early vs. later thing.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on September 08, 2014, 02:45:03 PM
Looks like TC has finally started listing the bags on eBay......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIDGESTONE-GTR-GTO-350-200-M2-SS-M2-200-SS200-TOOL-BAG-ZAST-/181520868126?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a437ca31e&vxp=mtr#ht_3511wt_956 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIDGESTONE-GTR-GTO-350-200-M2-SS-M2-200-SS200-TOOL-BAG-ZAST-/181520868126?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a437ca31e&vxp=mtr#ht_3511wt_956)
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: husker on September 15, 2014, 12:20:37 PM
A little late to this thread with this picture but it is probably a pretty accurate representation of the color and grain of a tool bag from a 1971 GTR.
Title: Re: Reproduction Tool Bags
Post by: moonpup on August 26, 2019, 07:25:03 PM
For those individuals that would like to restore their tool kit to like new status, you'll need some "Inspection Labels/Decals" to put on your tools after they're re-zinced.

Don't worry about them being listed as Kawasaki, they are the same as were used on our tools.

You can now purchase them here (12 decals to a set)...... 

https://www.diablocycle.com/Kawasaki-Tool-Inspection-Labels.html