Bridgestone Motorcycle Parts Discussion Board
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: stone Man on April 20, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
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Being somewhat new to 2-strokers, wondering what oil you all are using and can recommend? I understand there are oils out there that smoke less and are made for more high performance engines. Anyone want to weigh in?
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Any of the modern 2-stroke oils are probably far superior to the stuff from the 60's and 70's we used to run, just like automotive oils are. I have recently used a few different semi-synthetics, primarily Yamalube, but am currently working on a case of Lucas Oil semi-synthetic.
They'll still smoke some when cold.
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I've run several quarts of Yamalube 2S through my Bridgestones over the last few years. It's readily available in my area, reasonable cost and burns clean. Like Karl says, they smoke a bit when cold.
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I have been running Klotz for years in almost anything two cycle, smokes little on startup and cleans out well, keeps the spark plugs nice, good stuff, high price but well worth it. Even makes my weedeater start better. I use the stuff with snowmobile on the bottle as it is always available around here, works well with Bridgestone oil injection or pre mix as I use it both ways.
Here is a link to the stuff
http://klotzlube.com/tech/KL-215.pdf (http://klotzlube.com/tech/KL-215.pdf)
Jeff Bar
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I have run Bel-ray, Klotz, Yamalube and Full Bore in different Bridgestones
I prefer Bel-ray or Klotz as they both run so clean, but they are expensive but I feel
our bikes are worth it.
YamaLube is OK, cheap but smokes much more, than the synthetics above, Full Bore
is a relic from the past, if I wanted to use a cheap oil, then I would use YamaLube
If you are mixing the oil for a machine without oil injection, I would use the synthetics
at 40 to 1 and use the mineral oil (Yamalube) at 20 to 1.
Over all I think the synthetics are the best, be sure to buy the one made for oil injections.
Just my two cents worth
Richard Clark
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Good to hear your opinion Richard. I was at the local Yamaha dealer for light bulbs today. They said Yamalube S was $7.xx a quart and I think it was the Yamalube R was $10.xx a quart.
Maybe I'll use the Honda MB5 as a test bed for various oils. Although I didn't mind a smoke trail in my younger days (last time the GTR was ridden). I thought the smoke was a good substitute to the theory of "loud pipes save lives". Although the dry clutch isn't exactly quiet either.
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Hey, I just recently started shopping for 2 stroke oil for my 200cc MKII SS. Was buying Lucas Oil Semi-Synthetic TCW3 in pint bottles for just under $6 each at the local Trader Horn. That's $48 per gallon. Lucas says "Designed primarily for use with oil injection systems where no fuel/oil premixing is required" so I figure it should be OK. Anyway, my local auto parts store ordered me gallon jugs for $18 per gallon. Once warmed up, I don't have much of a smoke problem. Check out the Lucas site at http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?iid=45&catid=17&loc=show. (http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?iid=45&catid=17&loc=show.) Hope it helps.
Gary
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I used to use Klotz and Yamalube back in the early days, now use Yamalube and Lucas. I just pulled the cylinders off my GTR to have a look and bead blast them to pretty them up a little. The bike has 38,000 miles on it. I had it apart once before, prior to 10,000 miles, back when I took things apart just to see how they looked (not much has changed, huh). I'm pretty sure I put new pistons and rings in it then. So now it has an additional 28,000 miles on it and the pistons still measure within spec, the ring gap is .008 in. over new spec, but .020 in. under replacement spec. The cylinders have worn .0005 in., except just above the exhaust port they have worn almost .001 in. There is no discernible looseness in the lower rod bearings and the top end bearings look pretty good. There is a light coating of soft carbon on the heads and very little buildup in the exhaust ports. It will go back together with new base gaskets and rings, and the same pistons and upper bearings.
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Karl 38,000 miles, aren't stones wonderful
Sam
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Karl 38,000 miles, aren't stones wonderful
Sam
From the condition of the pistons, rings and cylinders, it would have been good for 100,000 miles before it needed rebuilt, mostly thanks to the chrome bores.
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Karl, just don't use that Lucas with alky
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Sorry to dredge up an old topic, but the Klotz link above no longer works. For those of you who use Klotz, which product would you recommend? I'm in the process of choosing a contemporary synthetic offering to replace my old friend Castrol. As usual, thanks for any help!
...bert
Researching this further, there are two Klotz 2 Stroke oils that are specifically identified as for injection applications.
They are TC-W2 and TC-W3 Motorcycle Techniplate. The W3 variety has a higher no smoke rating (10 vs 9 for W2). There is very little difference in price, so can anyone offer an argument for one over the other?
Thanks again...
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X2 for the Lucas brand oil. Great "stuff"!