Author Topic: More Generator Questions  (Read 475 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline nysz1b

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Bridgestone Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 140
  • What, me worry?
More Generator Questions
« on: July 18, 2018, 03:52:07 PM »
I'd like to replace the generator wires, being that they are 50 years old, that  (of course) run to the wiring harness, condensers, etc. This involves opening the case, (duh!) and before I do this, how easy is it to replace these wires? I'm pretty convident that the windings are ok, as this GTR (a 1967) started and ran when I got it few years ago.  Not being a wiring expert, is this an easy enough job to tackle, or should I send it out for such a repair, and any reccomendations on who to use?

Also interested in a solid-state regulator/rectifier update. Can one trust the orignal components because of their age?

Thanks in advance!

Offline OldSwartout

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • *******
  • Posts: 1069
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2018, 05:59:31 PM »
The wires aren't difficult to replace with a little soldering.  Get some 1/2 heat shrink tubing, correct color wire, etc. ahead of time.  Even find a new grommet at the hardware store if you can.  The generator comes apart relatively easily, just bearings with a light press in the bores.

If your current rectifier is working, it will probably continue to work.  However, they eventually corrode between the plates at the center and then it's dead and you can't fix them.  If you want to go to newer tech, you can use two regular bridge rectifiers with 4 terminals and just leave two empty, or look for a 3 phase bridge rectifier which will have 5 terminals just like the current selenium rectifier.  You can buy them with either spade terminals or screw terminals.
Karl Swartout
Mooresville, IN
BS175 Roadracer
BS350 GTR

Offline Steve Swan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Bridgestone Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 72
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 11:05:00 PM »
The wires aren't difficult to replace with a little soldering.  Get some 1/2 heat shrink tubing, correct color wire, etc. ahead of time.  Even find a new grommet at the hardware store if you can.  The generator comes apart relatively easily, just bearings with a light press in the bores.

If your current rectifier is working, it will probably continue to work.  However, they eventually corrode between the plates at the center and then it's dead and you can't fix them.  If you want to go to newer tech, you can use two regular bridge rectifiers with 4 terminals and just leave two empty, or look for a 3 phase bridge rectifier which will have 5 terminals just like the current selenium rectifier.  You can buy them with either spade terminals or screw terminals.

Karl, what is the source for "newer tech" parts you refer to; i would like to put the info in my file.  Thanks, steve swan

Offline BRT-GTR

  • Brian
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Registered Bridgestone Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 776
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2018, 09:50:45 AM »
           Karl, would also thank you for comments on replacing alternator wires, haven't tried that yet.
   
    Did find this 3 phase rectifier here in UK, would appreciate your opinion on whether it would be up to the job.  Nice compact unit and very reasonably priced.
      https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/bridge-rectifiers/3953216/
                                              Brian.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 09:53:15 AM by BRT-GTR »
Unspoiled by progress.

Offline nysz1b

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Bridgestone Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 140
  • What, me worry?
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 01:30:47 PM »
Oldswartout and others; Thanks for the info! I'm going to try to repalce the wires myself. I'll post photos.

Offline OldSwartout

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • *******
  • Posts: 1069
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 04:21:28 PM »


Karl, what is the source for "newer tech" parts you refer to; i would like to put the info in my file.  Thanks, steve swan

I just meant semiconductor diodes commonly used today vs. selenium rectifiers.

Brian, that 3-phase bridge looks ideal.  Bolt it directly to something metal, like an aluminum bracket or sheet, or in good contact with the battery box, to conduct heat away.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 04:24:54 PM by OldSwartout »
Karl Swartout
Mooresville, IN
BS175 Roadracer
BS350 GTR

Offline davis

  • Regular Member.
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • **
  • Posts: 136
  • Desire for a better world.
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2018, 09:33:10 PM »
For solid state rectifiers talk to the experts like: https://www.rmstator.com/en_ww/ or https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/.

Or...put a 12V Bosch type relay in the red + lines between the battery and rectifier and power it with a line spliced to the blue keyswitch wire. This will keep your battery from draining, but make sure charging is taking place.

Offline coxy

  • coxy
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Registered Bridgestone Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1105
Re: More Generator Questions
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 04:05:15 AM »
if you guys have put a solid state rectifier in where are you mounting it ? the same spot for the selenium rectifier?
cheers

 


Gallery


Views:14
Comments (0)
By: harleywaynecycles

Views:16
Comments (0)
By: harleywaynecycles

Views:12
Comments (0)
By: harleywaynecycles

Views:6
Comments (0)
By: harleywaynecycles

Classifieds

Frame etc Bridgestone 350

Price: $0.00
Date: 11/15/2018 11:52 pm
Time Left: 497d 16h 11m
Frame etc Bridgestone 350

Price: $0.00
Date: 11/15/2018 11:51 pm
Time Left: 497d 16h 10m
[ebay] ‘67 175 DT - no reserve
Price: $0.00
Date: 11/09/2018 10:20 am
Time Left: 81d 2h 40m
Assorted Bridgestone Parts

Price: $0.00
Date: 10/16/2018 11:09 am
Time Left: 57d 2h 28m

Recent Downloads added

11/01/1967 Factory Service Letter, RH shift/LH Brake conversion

Rating: (None)
Filesize: 92.56KB
Date: August 03, 2018, 02:49:08 AM
11/01/1967 Factory Service Letter, RH shift/LH Brake conversion

Rating: (None)
Filesize: 142.24KB
Date: August 03, 2018, 02:44:36 AM
350 GTR Wiring Diagram
Rating: *****
Filesize: 8604.23KB
Date: July 29, 2018, 12:29:25 PM
Bridgestone Motorcycles

Rating: (None)
Filesize: 3561.91KB
Date: June 05, 2018, 04:42:13 PM

Powered by EzPortal