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Parts availability - in the UK.
« on: March 13, 2018, 11:28:34 AM »
Hi,

I'm in the process of getting a 175 Hurricane running here in the UK - it did feature on a much earlier thread on this forum (years ago) in an ebay auction.
I've got the engine apart - which required a bit of work - I had to extract the piston from the cylinders as they were stuck fast. I tried all the usual suggestions - penetrating fluids, heat etc. I resorted to cranking them out the bottom of the cylinders using 4 lengths of threaded bar in place of the studs, with a thick steel plate on top of a length of wood on top of the pistons. They let go with a might crack as I applied a half turn to each of the nuts in turn. It took a while but I got them out. The pistons were dirty but not damaged, the rings too - but I broke one in my haste to remove it, lesson learnt - took it easy on the others and they came off without breaking.

The cylinders definitely need work - there's several spots of damage on the walls of both and someone (not me) managed to break the skirt off the front of the left one.

The outer crank bearings seem fine but the centre is rough and the outer race of it slides from left to right.

Whats the supply of decent cranks like - I've seen some rotten ones on ebay - does anyone know anyone in the UK that has pressed these things apart to replace bearings?


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Re: Parts availability - in the UK.
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 11:33:22 AM »
Pistons after a cleanup.

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Re: Parts availability - in the UK.
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 11:38:52 AM »
A broken cylinder.

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 12:00:28 PM »
Now - the mystery.
The way I read it is that the pistons for a 175 with alu cylinders there should be a 'T' stamped on the top of the piston - I can't find one on either in this bike. Am I right? Does this bike have the wrong pistons? Reading the CLymer manual I think this bike has pistons from a 90 in it.

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2018, 05:09:27 PM »
That is a piston for a 90 iron cylinder.  The aluminum cylinder 90 and 175 have a swirl mark in the top center, the 175 pistons are supposed to have a "T" stamp, but I've used pistons without the T multiple times. Anyone else on the forum have experience with this?
« Last Edit: March 13, 2018, 05:11:18 PM by OldSwartout »
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Re: Parts availability - in the UK.
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 06:16:39 AM »
The chrome bore of the 175 is incompatible with pistons from iron bore 90s. The piston from the 90 Sport which has a chrome bore can be used in the 175. See the 175 Clymer manual section on pistons. Also you must use the specific rings for the 90 sport or 175. Do NOT use the rings from a 90 with a steel/iron bore in the 175.otherwise you will ruin the chrome bore.
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Re: Parts availability - in the UK.
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 07:43:58 AM »
             See also 'Pistons & Rings' service letter, Page 16, No BSG-0036 here :-      http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/PDF/BSServiceLetters.pdf

        A few members in the UK have restored 175s recently, hopefully they will come forward with any surplus spares.
      Otherwise, spares have to come from Richard on this site or Ebay if you are lucky.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 07:45:57 AM by BRT-GTR »
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Re: Parts availability - in the UK.
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 05:06:50 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

I've arranged for the cylinders to go to Langcourt to be repaired and re-plated, the broken skirt can be sorted out by them apparently too. Does anyone have any experience of them?

I also need to find someone to repair the crank - it looks OK - but the centre bearing is shot. I've seen some bearings on ebay, but can;t find the centre seal at the moment. Any ideas?

How does a person get in contact with Richard?

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 09:14:15 AM »
http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/index.php?topic=415.0

Sometimes, it takes a whiel for him to answer email.  If you call, you'll usually have the best luck in the mornings (USA time, +6 from your time, I believe).
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 01:55:28 PM »
          Many UK members have used Langcourt for cylinder repair/rechroming and I've never heard of any complaints. I believe they may be the only UK company to offer this service (chrome) and I will be forwarding a pair of barrels in the near future.
      Nikasil plating is also available but I forget the company who do this. They do a lot of work for F1 teams and can have extended lead times.                                                               Good luck with the resto, Brian.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 03:04:05 PM »
Hi Ragman,
Langcourts do a great job with the cylinders - I've had all of mine done there.
The plating is actually Nikasil. Tell them you need a .0002 clearance between piston and cylinder.
As for the crank rebuild. If you are anywhere near leicester, my engineer/mechanic could do this for you. He has done everyone of my crank rebuilds and knows what he's doing.
I have the inner bearing race for the centre, but not the outer shell. If you are struggling, then someone could make this for you.
Unless Richard has the centre seal, they appear to be unobtainable now. I used to get mine from CPC, but the last time I enquired, they had sold them all.
If you would like to contact me on:  s.price627@ntlworld.com I still have some nos engine parts left and various used parts available.
And of course, I can put you right with information to get you in the right direction.

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 04:27:14 PM »
The clearance is .002 (.0015- .0025) inch, not .0002.  I think Richard may have the seal, not certain about the bearing.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2018, 04:18:12 PM »
Yes Karl, you're right - i actually meant that.

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 06:40:33 PM »
I thought so.
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